Llamedos

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2012/05/temperature-rise-projections.html



Everything else seems trivial when looking at this. Even PO.

Megadoom

It was fun while it lasted

Just who the hell is 'The Climate Emergency Institute'!?

Probably four guys in a basement in Ohio.   

and why are the so hung up on the word 'committed'? They keep sticking in 'committed' where it makes no sense.

and there is no timeline provided. Are we looking at 7 days, 7 years, or 70 years?
Without at least a suggested timeline the whole thing is a waste of time.

Well that was rather scathing of you. There is a timeline, or are you blind? it's a hundred years. The sources, videos, and links provided at the site are all very credible, lots of scientific papers/abstracts, data, and analysis.

Go there, look around.

Yeah, sure, I'm sure it's 4 guys in a basement.    Nevermind the evidence, let's attack the sites credibiltiy because you don't like the use of too many "committeds"

Megadoom

Quote from: knestle on May 09, 2012, 08:42:00 PM

Just who the hell is 'The Climate Emergency Institute'!?

Probably four guys in a basement in Ohio.   

and why are the so hung up on the word 'committed'? They keep sticking in 'committed' where it makes no sense.

and there is no timeline provided. Are we looking at 7 days, 7 years, or 70 years?
Without at least a suggested timeline the whole thing is a waste of time.

Well that was rather scathing of you. There is a timeline, or are you blind? it's a hundred years. The sources, videos, and links provided at the site are all very credible, lots of scientific papers/abstracts, data, and analysis.

Go there, look around.

Yeah, sure, I'm sure it's 4 guys in a basement.    Nevermind the evidence, let's attack the sites credibility because you don't like the use of too many "committeds"

Megadoom

'Four guys in a basement in Ohio' is my clumsy metaphor for all the individuals, small groups, and organizations that sit around pointing at the problem, printing charts, and doing nothing to solve the problem(maybe because they understand that there is nothing they CAN do?).

By golly, you're right! There is a timeline. Unfortunately it's connection to the thermometer is a little clumsy.     I'm not blind, just sometimes not very observant.

100 years? Do they(or you) actually think there will be ANYTHING left in 100 years?
In my case(and I suspect yours), anything beyond 20 years is irrelevant anyway.

I did go to the CEI website, and saw photos of Dr. Peter Quixote, Ashok Quixote, and Chloe Quixote, and a bunch of underlings. I have no doubt that these are good hearted, well intentioned people, but they don't seem to understand that they are wasting their time producing all those charts and graphs. Either the tipping point has already been passed, or NO ONE is going to do ANYTHING until the tipping point has seriously passed.

Nobody even thinks about slowing down until the car is already off the road and heading for the tree.

As long as there is money to be made(the 1%), or plastic pumpkins to buy(the 99%), no one is going to mess with the status quo. Only when the plastic pumpkin production line grinds to a halt will the 1% understand that their profits are threatened(not to mention their way of life, or their actual lives), and the 99% realize it's too damn hot to be shopping for plastic pumpkins, will anyone pay any attention. By then it will be too late for all 100%, and I will be long gone.

Knestle, I believe you're misreading the chart. The time span is 100 years, but when people start dying.....less than 30 years.

It's human to be hopeful, but the science is saying otherwise.

Megadoom

On a strictly personal basis(being 70 years old next month), 20-25 years works fine for me. I might need a lot less than that.

For people that think they have more than 20-30 years to live, WHAT ARE THEY DOING ABOUT IT! ! ! ?

Are they stoking up on color ink cartridges so they can keep printing doomsday charts and graphs, are they trying to do something useful to preserve and extend their future, are they doing anything?

I feel so super lucky to have been born and lived in the 'Golden Cradle' of American history.
1940 - 2020(2015?) when the dream was alive and everything was flourishing for the USA.
Now, I'll be checking out, avoiding all but the leading edge of the nightmare that will be the USA in 2015(?)+.   

Who says anything has to be done? Just reporting on the doomiest set data one can look at. So seriously, have a drink, enjoy the sunset.

Megadoom

The sunsets in Bolingbrook, IL ain't all that great.
Maybe that's what's missing in my life(could be a LOT of other things, too).   
Maybe I should move to someplace with better sunsets.?

I'll be 66 in July - and I have been approaching this as if I have 50 more years to live 
Of course my grandmother is 99 ....

My father made it to 94, my mom passed last year at 86.
I figure if nothing unexpected pops up I could make it to 90.
What in the hell am I going to do for the next 20 years!?   

Knestle you're a lucky duck. However at 23, I get to spend most of my life dealing with the aftermath of that boom